With a new GPU generation not so far away, we're approaching the point where you'll have to decide whether to grab the graphics card you want now or wait for the next generation.
When Are Next-Gen GPUs Launching? Should You Buy Now or Wait?
When Are Next-Gen GPUs Launching? Should You Buy Now or Wait?
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Who the hell would buy now with the actual MSRP of the Nvidia GPUs?
No, it made this kind of leap solely due to passing from Samsung 7nm to TSMC 4nm.
Beerfloat
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Techspot just posted an article about that, have you read it?
Marco Mint
Posts: 97 +102
5700XT here and I've my own, in place boxes that must be ticked before I will buy anything else. Been putting this off for years and willing to still put it off for more years.
1, It must be €1000 or under, within the EU market place of course, for the non standard, quieter cards.
2, If it meets that price, then I'll decide if the performance to price ratio is worth it. It must double the performance (at least) of my 5700XT!
3, It must NOT use Nvidias current power plug arrangement with that possibility of melting/fire.
Is this too much to ask?
1, It must be €1000 or under, within the EU market place of course, for the non standard, quieter cards.
2, If it meets that price, then I'll decide if the performance to price ratio is worth it. It must double the performance (at least) of my 5700XT!
3, It must NOT use Nvidias current power plug arrangement with that possibility of melting/fire.
Is this too much to ask?
Atmajaya2020
Posts: 193 +124
no, it is not..
and I completely agree with your number 2..
my next ugrade ahould have about double performance of my current gpu..
and, if possible, with the same price..
This question comes up every cycle. The question today is whether 1.5 year old hardware is worth the current prices at this stage. Some models are still wildly overpriced imo, while others have seen good discounts.
The answer as always, depends on what you need and what you're playing. I personally try to buy in fairly early in the cycle, but there's usually a premium to pay for that too.
The answer as always, depends on what you need and what you're playing. I personally try to buy in fairly early in the cycle, but there's usually a premium to pay for that too.
n3o127
Posts: 59 +42
While certain not exact numbers, still fun look back:
2010 GTX 580 $499 MSRP
2016 GTX 1080 $599 MSRP (roughly 317% faster than GTX 580)
2017 2.13% inflation $611.76
2018 1.9% inflation $623.38
2019 1.81% inflation $634.66
2020 1.23% inflation $642.47
2021 4.7% inflation $672.67
2022 8% inflation $726.48
2022 RTX 4080 $1,199 MSRP (roughly 183% faster than 1080)
2010 GTX 580 $499 MSRP
2016 GTX 1080 $599 MSRP (roughly 317% faster than GTX 580)
2017 2.13% inflation $611.76
2018 1.9% inflation $623.38
2019 1.81% inflation $634.66
2020 1.23% inflation $642.47
2021 4.7% inflation $672.67
2022 8% inflation $726.48
2022 RTX 4080 $1,199 MSRP (roughly 183% faster than 1080)
Not sure where you get only 183% faster than the 1080 but the 4080 is 300% faster than the 3050 8GB and the 1080 is only about 12% faster than the 3050 8GB (source: TPU reviews @1440p), so that puts it at about:
4080 is 260% faster than the 1080. So the improvements are better than 183% but not to 317%. But of course there's still the price.
n3o127
Posts: 59 +42
Performance came from user benchmarks vs review site(s)
Maybe look elsewhere for comparisons, especially places that use their own test data as Userbenchmark is a highly suspect source with some heavy, self-admitted biases. In a very broad sense their information is on the right track but they change the weighting on their scores when they feel like it to satisfy their pre-existing biases.
For example: their current 2nd best value GPU is the RX 6500 XT. And the first is a 7 year old GPU, the RX 580. Because they use 3 very simple tests which don't represent any current or even recent gameplay. So yes, the 580 and 6500 XT are good for games from the 2010s but we're half a decade past that now.
n3o127
Posts: 59 +42
Certainly more places to use as reviews for sure, some back those numbers up actually and others go all over the place -- it's not scientific benchmark review that I posted, just a comment as it states with rough information -- of course I get it, green fanboys and staff could be sassy about that information being a topic, it is what it is... Prices have gone up, way up, and performance gains have slipped -- more $$$ for less (if it helps, I own 4090, of course also have 7900XTX).
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It's all good, I have an RX 580 and had an RX 6400 and like them both along with other Nvidia and Radeon GPUs. I'm not picky except when it comes to value, which itself is arbitrary. However I find the methodology of this place, TPU, GN and others which publish their controlled tests using actual games to be far more valuable for making a good GPU or CPU purchase.
n3o127
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I hear you for sure. I'm tech engineer, with things for work that do blessed to get access to (at home lab) the top cards from both (and now Intel) and test them extensively (I agree with you on choice of review places as fyi...) . With price of dGPU's today, its become a major purchase for a gamer and enthusiast alike. I'm curious as to next gen xbox and ps is AMD will be as willing to hold cost(s) low when they port more productions towards deep learning cards for far greater profits, and will Intel surprise everyone with landing either Sony or Microsoft to get some of that market from AMD.
For $100-200, you're willing to forgo at least 8 months of gaming enjoyment? Tech forums are the only place where people are waiting and waiting and waiting. Meanwhile, playing on old hardware. I get it if you can't afford it but budget is not mentioned as the reason.
You also have no idea what you're waiting for and when it will get here and what the price will be. You could just be wasting 8 months for nothing. It's not like we didn't have flops before, shortages, and initial markups that required waiting much longer past release. Unless something is right around the corner and you know the price, estimated performance, and availability, just get what you want now.
No one knows what AMD is going to do with 7900 XT(X). They might drop the price if it's still their top dog or they might just stop making it if their margins are already thin and they can't compete. They can use their TSMC allocation for other things.
At this poit GPU prices are ridiculous
Eldrach
Posts: 59 +74
I’ll probably buy a 5090, just as I bought a 3090, and a 4090. Hardware costs are pretty low compared to all other costs here in Norway
Achaios
Posts: 527 +1,355
What is "gaming enjoyment"? You can get "gaming enjoyment" out of playing bubble bobble on an amiga 500. It's all inside your head.
Yes, we know what's gonna happen when new gen is here. Used GPU prices will drop like a rock and the nerds will be frantically dumping their 4090's and 4080's on EBAY to finance their next purchase.
No matter how you look at it, it's worth it to wait. Besides, I don't wanna give Huang the satisfaction of playing into his "The era of cheap GPUs is over" gaslighting.
Branch
Posts: 41 +41
Waiting until the scalpers & artificial shortages bullshit to pass through with the new series to consider buying anything. I might even wait some more, for the sake of waiting. If the wind blows in a bad direction, the wallet stays closed. 
People mainly wait for high end cards not low end cards. If you're happy playing on amiga 500, you're not the target audience for high end cards.
If you're waiting for something, then you must need that something to enjoy your gaming needs whatever those might be. Also, it seems like money is a factor to you where you can't buy now and buy again later.
If you're shopping used prior gen cards, you're not the target audience for current high end cards. I'm not sure what country you're in but check your tax laws. In the US, you can claim the card on your taxes if you get a 1099 as a business purchase and again as a deduction when you donate it. Depending on which tax bracket you're in, you can get back between 24% x 2 (48%) and 37% x 2 (74%). So the actual price really doesn't matter to some as they're getting back most of that initial purchase without any hassle.
Starfals
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This generation has been dead from day 1. Terrible value and performance. Needing frame generation and DLSS to even play games well enough. 50 Series should solve this problem, at least with the current games. I waited long enough, god knows I won't buy a 40 series card, even if it was SUPER discounted... which they aint. They are in fact MORE expensive in my country. The 1000 so called 4080 super is actually 1250 here. Yay? 4070? 700-750 euro. Fun! 750 euro for a card that dont exactly meet the performance needs of the modern games without any DLSS. Not to mention RT...
Id rather spend 800-1200 for a brand new 50 series card.
Id rather spend 800-1200 for a brand new 50 series card.
Ah and this is the little secret for some people. If you live is a place where the cost of living is high and you get paid to compensate, then fixed costs like PC or hobby equipment are way more affordable.
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